Did McCain really call the media "my base"? If so, when?

by kingsbridge77, Tue Jul 22, 2008 at 09:22:05 PM EST

There is not one discussion on media bias in which someone on our side won't quip, "Oh yeah? If the media is anti-McCain, why does he call it "my base"?

Two things must be investigated:

  1. Did McCain really call the media "my base"?, and if so,

  2. When?

We are in campaign 2008. If McCain called the media his base in 2000, I don't think that argument has any bearing on discussion of current media bias.

A baseball player is not necessarily great now because he was great in 2000.
Jack doesn't necessarily like Jill now because he liked her in 2000.




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McCain is adopting Obama's (none / 0)

strategy with respect to having his campaign say one thing while he does another; his campaign has been complaining about media bias while he himself denied such a bias to Katie Couric.  The "McCain is adopting HRC's strategies" narrative is bs; I see more of Obama in McCain than HRC in McCain (strategies that is).


by Blazers Edge on Tue Jul 22, 2008 at 09:27:01 PM EST

Another example of the fallacy (none / 0)

behind the HRC-McCain analogy is that HRC never spent 80% of a townhall or speech talking about Obama.  You get the sense from McCain's townhalls and speeches that he is absolutely obsessed with Obama.  McCain has gone relentlessly negative in the last week.  

In other words, HRC talked less about Obama than Obama talked about HRC while McCain talks about Obama significantly more than Obama talked about HRC.


by Blazers Edge on Tue Jul 22, 2008 at 09:31:17 PM EST
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Re: Another example of the fallacy (none / 0)

Not sure about that last sentence, but I'm right with ya on the 80%.  When I watch him, I honestly wonder how he ever got elected.  They immediately went to his townhall in NH today, on MSNBC, and he began with a diatribe about Obama and a very rehearsed (but still ineffective) canned line.  He's really not very good, and I don't just mean that from the perspective of policy preferences.  If you think about it, he's really very much like Bush, in that he's the very average son of greater people, making up for a lack of talent with a lot of will and family money.

No wonder he doesn't like to talk about his own positions.  


No way. No how. No McCain.
by freedom78 on Tue Jul 22, 2008 at 11:02:01 PM EST
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Re: Did McCain really call the media (2.00 / 2)

Yes, by all means, let us give McCain an even fairer shake than we have been.

Why don't you investigate it and then collect your points?


by rfahey22 on Tue Jul 22, 2008 at 09:29:00 PM EST

According to "The Google" McCain loves (none / 0)

It was in 2005, to Evan Thomas of Newsweek:

http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/St ory.aspx?guid={6BAB8A05-5CFD-4E12-A6BA-0908901EDF0E}& amp;siteid=google

(you have to cut and paste the link)

Not like the proof isn't very much in his recent coverage.


by Neef on Tue Jul 22, 2008 at 09:35:58 PM EST

I'm sure that McCain... (none / 0)

...is well aware of the fact that he's out with the media and Obama is in.


by soyousay on Tue Jul 22, 2008 at 09:54:58 PM EST

Re: Did McCain really call .... (none / 0)

To answer, Chris Matthews called the press McCain's base in this election cycle. Thus making it current again.

And of course it still matters. The medias' love affair with McCain has been going on for years, because he's always been a good story. This continues, only  now the story is staring to be what stupid thing is this guy going to say next.


Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.
by jsfox on Tue Jul 22, 2008 at 10:07:49 PM EST

Let's get real (none / 0)

The media is Obama's base now.

FYI; "base" is support; therefore, the media is NOT McCain's base.


by soyousay on Tue Jul 22, 2008 at 10:29:56 PM EST
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Re: Let's get real (1.00 / 1)

Bwaaaaaa.....Haaaaaaaa...Bwaaaaa...Good one...


I can see Lake Erie from where I live, so can I please run the Navy?
by hootie4170 on Tue Jul 22, 2008 at 11:43:50 PM EST
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Re: Let's get real (none / 0)

You don't think that the mainstream media is supportive of Obama? If that's the case, you're in the minority.


by soyousay on Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 07:03:36 AM EST
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Re: Let's get real (1.00 / 1)

You're funny!


I have that readiness.
by Jess81 on Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 09:29:05 AM EST
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Re: Let's get real (1.00 / 4)

TR'd for disrupting the discussion.


I'm for a timeline on Iraq, public funding of elections, women's reproductive rights, gun restrictions and universal suffrage. So why should I vote for Obama?
by William Cooper on Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 10:04:08 AM EST
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Re: Let's get real (1.50 / 2)

tr'd for tr abuse.


"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good." Samuel Johnson
by MS01 Indie on Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 10:52:58 AM EST
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Re: Let's get real (1.00 / 2)

tr'd for tr abuse


I'm for a timeline on Iraq, public funding of elections, women's reproductive rights, gun restrictions and universal suffrage. So why should I vote for Obama?
by William Cooper on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 05:15:28 AM EST
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The "base" in action (2.00 / 1)

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/ main500251.shtml?id=4284432n&channel =/sections/eveningnews/videoplayer3420.s html

1:20 in:
Couric to McCain: "what about Maliki's recent public support of a 16 month timetable?".

McCain to Couric: "Maliki has always supported a condition-based withdrawal".

Couric to McCain: "But sir, what about his RECENT comments?"

Oh wait, scratch that last one. It never happens.  McCain gets to reorganize reality at will.


by Neef on Tue Jul 22, 2008 at 10:13:09 PM EST

Good ole MYDD (none / 0)

I love this site, the only "Democratic" Blog where you can find pro-mccain diaries.


by DemsLandslide2008 on Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 12:59:20 PM EST


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